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Newsletter Growth Secrets for 2025: Insights from Flodesk CEO Martha Bitar
Simple proven strategies to grow your subscriber list, master email cadences, optimize subject lines, PLUS how to incorporate AI into your strategy.
Martha Bitar is the co-founder and CEO of Flodesk, an email marketing platform that makes it easy for creators and entrepreneurs to make beautiful emails designed for conversion. Flodesk has quickly grown to a $30 million ARR business while remaining completely bootstrapped.
In this episode of “Uploading...,” Martha shares strategies for creating engaging email content, growing a subscriber list, and using email to build authentic audience relationships. She covers key topics like email design, subject line optimization, and future trends like AI-powered email marketing. Martha also provides actionable insights on deliverability, segmentation, automation, and more.
Fav Quotes From Episode #29
Why Design-Driven Emails Convert Better: “Like there's a lot of noise, attention spans are super short. So every single email, it can't just hit the inbox, it has to stand out, it has to engage from the beginning. It has to be hyper optimized for conversion. And text based without any of your brand just doesn't cut it anymore, right? And not just for solopreneurs. We actually we looked at a case study with Stripe. Stripe is a massive company, right? I think it's the largest private company in the world and they A/B tested a text-based email and one that was actually optimize for conversion using their own brand. And the on brand design-based email increased conversion by 21%. So whether you're a very small business or a large business, like design is not a luxury anymore.” — Martha Bitar, 00:03:32 → 00:04:14
Why Owning Your Audience Matters: “The risk is not using it [email] because you saw what happened with TikTok, right? It can really disappear overnight and you're really on rented space. You don't own your audience. So over all of the effort that you put into building that followership and engagement can really go away. Where if you're building that on social media, but you're also saying, ‘Hey, by the way, join my newsletter.’ That's the list that you own. You're not platform-dependent. Even if we at some point make a mistake and become like a dinosaur as well, and you want to jump ship and go to another platform, you can just download and export your entire subscriber list and go use another platform.” — Martha Bitar, 00:18:48 → 00:19:25
3 Strategies for Success From Martha Bitar
1. Build your list with compelling lead magnets
Want to grow your email list fast? Take a cue from Martha and lead with value from the start.
Instead of just asking people to subscribe to your newsletter, entice them with a highly relevant, instantly useful freebie. Think along the lines of:
Downloadable guides packed with your top tips and tricks
Exclusive access to helpful resources
Free mini-courses delivered via email
To come up with a winning lead magnet idea, consider the most common questions your target audience asks. What recurring challenges do they face? Package up the answers into an appealing opt-in offer.
Once you've created your lead magnet, make it prominent across your marketing channels. Add signup forms to your website, share on social media, even collect emails in-person if you have a physical business location.
The key is to make your lead magnet so valuable that people will gladly hand over their email in exchange for access. This ensures you attract subscribers who are genuinely interested in hearing from you, setting the stage for high engagement down the line.
2. Boost engagement with segmentation
One-size-fits-all emails are a thing of the past. As Martha points out, segmentation is essential for delivering hyper-relevant content that keeps subscribers engaged for the long haul.
Start segmenting from the moment someone joins your list by offering options for the type of content they want to receive. You can do this through a preference center on your signup form or by creating separate opt-ins for different lead magnets.
Some ideas for segments include:
Interest areas (e.g. specific product categories, topics)
Experience level (e.g. beginner vs advanced)
Engagement (e.g. frequent openers/clickers vs inactive subscribers)
Use these segments to send targeted content, product recommendations, and offers tailored to each group's unique needs and interests. Just be sure to keep your segments broad enough to be manageable—no need to go overboard!
In addition to manual segmentation, set up automated email flows that adapt based on subscriber behavior. For example, if someone downloads a beginner's guide, add them to a welcome series introducing your core concepts. Or if they view a specific product page, trigger an abandoned cart sequence.
By combining the power of segmentation with automation, you can deliver personalized email experiences at scale, without adding extra work to your plate. It's a win-win.
3. Hyper-optimize content for conversion
In today's crowded inboxes, you have mere seconds to capture attention and inspire action. That's why Martha emphasizes the importance of email design and copy that's optimized for opens and clicks.
Let's start with your subject line. Keep it clear and to-the-point, while injecting just enough intrigue to entice people to open. As for emojis, use them judiciously based on your brand voice and audience.
Then there's the preview text—use this valuable real estate to expand on your subject line and give readers a compelling reason to click through. Think of it like an extension of your subject line that builds curiosity.
Once you've earned that open, it's time to deliver with your email design and copy. Martha's advice? Keep things clean, skimmable, and conversion-focused:
Put your key message and main CTA above-the-fold
Use eye-catching images that reinforce your copy
Break text into short paragraphs with bold headlines
Use contrasting colors and action-driven copy for CTAs
By optimizing every element of your emails for conversion, you'll train subscribers to anticipate and engage with your content on a regular basis. And that paves the way for higher ROI from your email marketing efforts overall.
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